Speaker 3 (00:42)
I'd like to welcome Dr. Alicia Main, and she is known as the animal healer. Dr. Alicia brings a fascinating blend of energy work, body alignment, and animal communication to the horse world. Her groundbreaking work bridges science and intuition, helping animals heal at the deepest levels. And we're really excited to have you here today, Dr. Alicia.
Speaker 1 (01:02)
Very excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:03)
So can you share with us your journey and how you're doing what you're doing with horses right now, how that came to be?
Speaker 1 (01:10)
Yes, I can. It started at five when I wanted to be a vet and then school came in and you know, was a wonderful notion of wanting to help animals heal, but then actual math and science came in and we didn't get along very well. So I sort of said, okay, I'm probably not going to be a vet. And I landed up going into fitness training and really started to understand science on a different level because you know, when a piece of paper says X over N equals B and you're an Aries and you're like,
Well, why? What does X mean? Well, it's a thing. And but what does N mean? Well, it's another thing. And then I'm like, this makes no sense till I got to actually start applying the science with people. So as my science as my fitness career progressed, I met a client at the gym and she introduced me to chiropractic care and to acupuncture and to Qilong. And as that journey
started to progress. Qigong is an ancient self-healing martial art that is used not for fighting, but for helping the body stay in balance and stay grounded. And it was not on my bucket list to get a bunch of needles poked into me and, you know, trying to listen to this Chinese master that I'm like, take it just, but as I kept following that path that just kind of appeared.
And the first time I got onto the acupuncture table, I felt something so different inside of my being. Like, I didn't know I was anything but a brain. And even though was a fitness trainer and had a really rounded embodiment, until I laid on that table and the silence kind of hit, I didn't realize that there was this whole other world that I rarely...
experience. And from that journey and practicing Qigong daily, I was led to study animal communication and I was led to study some body work. And I always had dogs. And then when I moved out to Colorado, I got my first horse. I had for 21 years and I had always been around horses. But everything was very on the outer. It's a horse. This is the way you have to do horses. It was never about like, horse is a being.
Like a horse has their own soul, a horse has their own consciousness, a horse has their own awareness. I mean, we see the horses living out in the wild and they do really well with their families, right? So I, this journey kind of led me to, funnily, ironically, listening to the horses who told me that I was going to do a PhD in how I work with them over long distances and what they understand in their consciousness, what they understand about their bodies.
The fact that quantum entanglements is a real thing that not just physicists understand, all the animals understand. So there's been many steps in between there, but that's how I arrived at where I am today.
Speaker 3 (03:58)
So, and you did your PhD on this. That's correct? Is that correct? Okay. Tell us a little bit about what you did for that. And because I know you did some studying of, of horses out in the wild, right?
Speaker 1 (04:09)
Well, all of the horses I worked with are formerly wild Mustangs. So everybody was already off the range, but I think except for two or three, everybody had been wild caught Mustangs. And then everybody was in different places. So, I had gone, I had my own horse for 21 years, my horse Cisco. And during that time,
Cisco helped me understand a lot of things. He helped me understand myself to be able to understand how to get out of my head and how to follow this path of Qi and Qi Gong, because all the animal kingdom understands it. It's basically what quantum physics calls energy, or the quantum really states back.
Speaker 3 (04:34)
Beanly?
Speaker 1 (04:54)
Thousands and thousands of years before we even got into quantum physics So how my PhD came about was just literally working Cisco understanding how to Do body work with him. I had taken several different body work courses and then all of a sudden it was kind of like, okay Well, glad that we've taught you, know through humans, but now you're gonna learn directly from us So it was really like probably about an 18 year path
of trusting so much that, well, wait a minute, you know, we're all taught we're supposed to learn from humans, right? You don't really learn from horses, but through the communication work, it was like, my God, this isn't weird. This is actually the ancient science. so following that animal communication path, following the body work, following that I could feel Cisco at a distance. So if I felt like something was off, I could start adjusting his body.
And I'd show up and I was like, wow, you really like you picked up on this energy stuff. This is amazing. So that journey led me to February 1st of 2020. And I went out to visit my friend, George Bronis and he has a sanctuary in Eckerd, Colorado. And he works with Mustangs. Most of the Mustangs are Killpen Mustangs. So they've had a hard time. They really come to George's.
Not as much for like the training to ride train, but training to reconnect with their souls and their essences. And so I had worked on a couple of the horses off body and we have seen some really powerful changes. Because when you start to work in the quantum, you start to work with the fascia tissue of the first down day. How fast bodies can change, how fast eyes can brighten, how fast coats can change.
how fast movement patterns or behavior patterns can shift. So I worked with a couple of the horses and because I can hear them, as I was driving home that day through this canyon, the horses, I felt them, I just felt them all around me and they said, can you pull over? Like, okay. And they said, well, we want you to do your PhD. I said, you guys, I wouldn't even have a clue.
how to do a PhD, what do you want me to do the PhD on? And they said, well, we want you to demonstrate through the work that you do, do things via Zoom, work with us, show an entire session of working with us at distances of a hundred to like 2000 miles away and let the people see, you know, video all of this so that people can actually see.
in session after session after session just from doing this simple technique that the animals taught me about certain points to press on the body how much can shift? My first question was can I think about it? Like I don't know if like there was just so much going through my head about science and what science is and how you do science and how you conduct science and will people believe the science? So I thought about it for the night.
And I agreed and I had gotten my masters through a metaphysical university a couple years before I did my master's project was on using Qigong with teenage boys that have ADD and ADHD. So we did a six week study, practiced together twice a week, saw what was going on before. And then we figured out like, so where are you guys at now? Six weeks later. And it was great. I kids were.
They were able to sleep, they were able to take tests, like headaches that they would get went away. But at that school, I was able to at the time sign up also for my PhD. So when I called my school the next day after I heard from the resources, we want you to do your PhD. And I was like, how much is this going to cost me? They were like, you've already paid for it. We're just waiting for you to do it. I was like,
I guess we're doing a PhD together. β It's fascinating. was all, it was 27 Mustangs. The horses said we want the only Mustangs we want never touched. Like a lot of the horses that ended up in the Kill Pen were kind of like training failures because there was stuff going on that maybe people didn't know. And the way that they described to me how to do it, it was brilliant because they were like with session with us. Not one of the horses was lame.
Nobody had any issues with bodies. There was nothing that you could look up. They all moved wonderfully. And then I started working on their bodies with my protocol, which is the instinct body assessment and fascia release technique. And I had learned this. It started with the dogs. Dogs started showing me how to test points on their back to change behaviors. So I started learning the points on the back and the dogs showed me, okay, here's how you do our belly line.
and start swishing our emotional issues. Because as we worked through the belly line, and energy would just shift, behaviors would change. Horses came in and the horses showed me how to do the points on their face. And by that time, I had learned that I could actually do this work from distance. So I didn't physically have to touch the horse. And even if I'm a person with the horses, I'm not usually physically touching them. I'll be like five feet away or wherever they are.
So they said, just show how you do this on zoom and horses that had no lameness says some of them had like 14, 15 misalignments in their body. And I was like, thank God. Nobody got on. Because thank God. No, you know, I'm so sorry that somebody tried to train you, but they couldn't. And then I started putting together the picture. Oh my God.
These horses are coming off the range. They play, they do stuff, they do all their things. They're out of alignment. It's not a big deal for them because they know how to move their bodies. But now a trainer is asking them to move a certain way. Got a wild animal that now has different compressions and unrecognized pain in their body? No wonder why they got faulted and they ended up in Kilpence.
and nobody recognized because you can't have a chiropractor just go over and walk over and touch them. You can't have a body worker do something with them because they're not touchable.
Speaker 3 (11:03)
Great.
Speaker 1 (11:04)
So when I agreed to do the PhD, I did not understand all of the things that I would start to understand and all of the dots I would start to connect as a result. I just was agreeing to say, sure, I'll do these case studies. I'll write up the PhD. That's all I thought really was going to come out of it.
Speaker 3 (11:22)
Yeah. Yeah. Fosha is an interesting thing in the respect to that. It's a liquid crystal matrix, right? And so there's a lot of information. We use, you know, crystals and that sort of thing in our computers because it can store incredible amounts of information. And you're working with this Fosha matrix in these animals' bodies and helping release things. What does it look like to you?
As you're doing this work, what are, what are you seeing and how does it maybe feel, as you're picking up on what the horse needs and, and all of that.
Speaker 1 (11:56)
So
there's a certain set of points. There's points along the face line. There's points along the back that really match up with pretty much all the vertebrae points and the bladder meridian. And then there's just basically in the front of the body, there's the chest, the belly line. So running from the chest bone, breastbone, all the way down the belly to the umbilical cord and then the hips. So it really kind of covers the whole body.
What it feels like to me is if I start at the nose of the horse and I were on zoom, obviously I'm not physically touching them, but literally we are facing the same direction, the horse and I, because once we, once you start hopping into off body, well now we're kind of in 3D as opposed to 3D. So in 3D we have a very specific set of principles.
right? And sciences that work and that pretty much all of life adheres to. When we jump to off body and now we're working through the chi field and the quantum field, the properties are a little bit different. Like, do know when you watch a movie, like a futuristic movie and they have this screen that, you know, they just flick their fingers and the screen pops up and they're moving things and they're like, it's kind of
It's kind of like that in terms of what I see in terms of the visuals. What it feels like to me is I physically have my hand on the top of that horse's nose and I can feel whether it feels straight across or it feels like it's shifted in some way. Because when I started, I started understanding, you know, through muscle tissue and massage. It worked well, but
I knew that there was a limitation to that, right? According to the animals and even for our bodies too, because we're all mammals. So we all kind of share the same properties. So I could feel the muscle, I could feel the release, but it didn't necessarily last. It's like when you get a massage and you're like, that felt so good. And the next day you're like, I need another one. That was, you know, this has been a process of learning from the humans and then the animals saying, let us show you how we really want you to work.
that most effectiveness. So when I put my fingers on that animal's nose, I can feel the fascia tissue. can feel, it feel pulled forward? Does it feel pulled back? Does it feel compressed down? Does it feel popped up? Does it feel rotated? The fascia tissue sits right under the skin and it coats everything. And it is, I think it's the master neural network for the entire body, not the brain. Brain is the processor that takes the information in.
from that crystalline matrix and it goes, okay. Now I know where to send chemistry. But the brain itself doesn't feel, it just registers chemistry, right? It just registers like, we got to do this, we got to do this. The FASA tissue is what is feeling. It's got the sensors in it, whether it's feeling it physically on the skin.
whether it's feeling it. Cause remember, we as humans operate kind of forward and maybe out to like 20%. And the horses, they're not great at the 10%, but they're great at the 350%. So their tissue is picking up things from 360. I mean, talk about having eyes in the back of your head. Right. And they're feeling things from miles away. So
I started working with the fascia tissue and I started being able to feel it and I started being able to feel like when it was compressed that I could just move my hands in a certain way and we're talking I mean I've worked on horses 9,000 miles away dealing and we're watching this right and seeing this in real time. Duffing up my sleeve I'm not communicating to the horse. Do you need a favor? Could you lick and chew now? Could you- could you lay down? You know like with like let's do a fact. I'm not communicating.
Any of that, I'm just touching tissue and I'm listening to what they have to say. Right. I started to realize I was like, well, the moly baby fascia tissue is the master gate for the entire body. Because when I teach this work, when I share this work, I keep it really, really simple. Like I always tell people, if you want to know every intricacy, every
mitochondria every you know capital study that with somebody else what I can teach you is how the fascia tissue acts how Well blood doesn't necessarily flow through the fascia tissue I think that chi flows through the fascia tissue and Chi is the energy that Everything is made of blood is made of cheap like it is the energy that filters through
everything, every cell, everything. So when I started focusing just that way and just hitting the points that the animals said and I could literally feel their bodies even like through the screen of what was happening and then I started to see the releases that were taking and I was like okay studying this stuff for like 33 years I've been practicing this stuff for 33 years I don't have any clue that this is where it was gonna go
But to be able to see, like in my study we just worked with 27 horses. But I've worked on hundreds and hundreds of horses around the world. Same exact process, but every animal is gonna respond a little bit differently based on what they have going on on their body. But being able to see changes in an animal that like wasn't even able to pick up a trot and now is running around the arena.
So it's fascinating because being the person that was in school that didn't understand the math and science at all and it was like okay I don't understand the equations like if Einstein put the equation of what quantum physics is I don't understand that but Einstein doesn't understand that I'm doing that equation in real time and oddly I was born in Albert Einstein Hospital in the Bronx
And we shared the same initials before it changed my name. And after I got COVID and my hair fell out, I looked like him and I was like, buddy, I know you had an issue with, with, with what did he call it? He called it spooky action at a distance. I was like, it's really cool. It's not so spooky. Like, was like, this is amazing. Being able to not have an animal have to go anywhere. No, they don't have to get in a truck. They don't have to get like shots and all that kind of stuff.
And I've worked with a lot of animals that have seen a of different doctors, a lot of alternative practitioners, and nobody can seem to get the real what's going on with animal. And that's when I kind of started to realize, I was like, wow, animal communication is not whooping and out there. It's actually based on Chinese medicine. It's wu wei, it's following the flow. Like it is a science and it's always been a science.
what the creator gifted us all with, the ability to communicate telepathically so that we could hear each other.
Speaker 3 (18:57)
So is it fair to say the quantum field, it's a place where no matter exists, but it's all energy?
Speaker 1 (19:04)
Yes. And so it's such a weird thing, right? Because in the 3D, we want to separate everything out, right? Reductionistically and okay, this is the heart and this is the kidney and this is the lungs and this is the fascia tissue and these are the hooves. But when you get to the quantum level and when you're dealing in the subtle energy field, and I didn't read this from a book. I kind of understood it from Qigong and TCM, but I...
didn't fully grasp it till I started working with the animals and with the horses and they were like, listen, this is a lot simpler than everybody's making it the way that they understand it, right? Cause I wasn't trying to understand it from the human perspective. I was just listening and hearing it from them. So when you get to that quantum field, you have to, because we have the eyes and everything, because we're so used to the 3D, right? When we pull back to the 5D,
What are we really? We're trillions and trillions of oscillating cells of matter that come together in a 3D form. But that form, like, you know how they talk about like, well, is it a sign or is it a wage? It's both hands. When you get to that level, right, it's not separating itself out. And that's why sometimes too, like, the vibration is so high.
when we're at that level because we're not slowing it down for, I get it, we're in a physical body. But if we start to work on the fascia tissue, not as a, I want to see like not as an application, right? Like not like a manual therapy. But if we understand that the fascia tissue basically at that level, it's matter, but it also has the ability to act as not matter. Like,
Just energy. Yeah. It's fascinating. The things that can happen in shift, because I don't ever go into a session going, I know what's going to happen. I'm like, I just know what points to touch. And then let's just see where the fascia tissue stopped. Let's see what we can unwind and let's just see what the horse shows us about it. So.
Speaker 3 (21:10)
And it seems like a horse or animals will tap into the quantum field, if you want to call it that. Maybe I'm calling it the wrong thing, but, people have been taught to be numb down, not believe if they're thinking about past, present, future, all at the same time, it's in their head. you know, there's examples of, we, we talk about this all the time with people where horses say it's a boarding farm and somebody will drive in, basically drive in and the horses around the corner.
So the horse doesn't even see the car. And the horse knows the person's coming. And sometimes it's good, and sometimes it's not good. Sometimes it's anxious. So is this an example of tapping into like the quantum field? Because I think we need to get people to understand how are you working at a distance with these horses.
Speaker 1 (21:55)
So I have a very funny, like really small story about that, but I was at the barn one day and I was waiting for a client, but I was just hanging out with the horse and she texted me. She's like, I'm going to be a little late. And I think she was like 25 miles out and she was like, do you see what I have to deal with today? The horse already knew he knew she was frantic. He knew that she was running around. He knew that it's like, she's not because
When we get into the quantum field, and even I've spoken to physicists about this and I've shared with them my work and they're like, well, technically it's not really quantum science. I was like, what do you mean it's not quantum? They're like, we understand what you're doing, but it is so outside. It's so far outside the realm of how we have to work our quantum science to prove that it's quantum science. So they said, we understand what you're doing.
They said we can't validate it with the tools that we have yet. And maybe that's why the horses told me to do this, to video it. Cause when people are like, how are you doing this at a distance? When you start to practice Qigong and you really start to let go of the mind and you really start to let go of the construct of what RSD reality is. Have you ever just been sitting
Like you could be around your horses, near your horses, and all of a sudden you just like... It literally feels like you just dropped into something where your mind kinda went into neutral. Right? And all of a sudden you were just aware like, my god, there's like a soft breeze on my face. And... my god, like where I was in my head just opened up that like I could feel the expansiveness of
everything that's around. The one of them, which they've only been researching for the last 70 to 80 years. From my 33 years of experience of working with a Chinese Qigong master acupuncture Qigong understanding how to be conduct body, mind and spirit at the same time. So it's just
A living experience. It's not like, okay, we'll do with my body. That one will talk to my mind. Like the unification. That's something that we've kind of all been educated and indoctrinated against. Like you mentioned Jack, right? It's like, we're taught what to think. Right? We're taught like, this is how it goes. And even in the horse world, right? We're taught don't ever stand behind a horse. Don't ever do this. Don't, you know, all of these things of the what not to do.
But we're never really taught to drop into the essence of us, which is that stillness, which is really where the horses live pretty much all the time. It's definitely different when you've got wild horses or you've got horses out in a pasture versus when you have horses in a barn, you know, and all the other things that they kind of have to filter out. That moment when you drop in, when you drop
out of the mental construct of spanking. You're aware of your breathing. You're just aware like, my god, did the space just like completely open up? That's really what I would say would be the experience of the quantum. Now, remember with most of the sciences, everything they're trying to prove, sadly,
has a monetary aspect to it, the way that we've gotten to the science. So I did my PhD through a metaphysical university because probably no way in heaven that I would have been allowed, you know, to do the research the way the horses told me to do. It wasn't even the way I wanted to do it. They said, we'll make it a no brainer. We'll set it up for you. So I just followed it.
And I just kept witnessing and observing, like it didn't go back to like the science of like, here's the Petri dish. I'm back to the natural science of like, what do you guys know? And what do you guys have to say that you want us to know that we've kind of forgotten? You know, we put into boxes and we put into Petri dishes and we separated out to all these things. When I start working in that field.
And I'm pressing these points, every single point is connecting with pretty much every organ, their respiration, their nervous system, their full nervous system, their autonomic nervous system, their emotions, like what happened to them in the past. So it's kind of a really fascinating journey because as humans, again, because we're reductionistic, we look at everything as this little point, that little point, that little point.
What I learned from them through this process in terms of the quantum, everything is happening in a 360 degree experience all the time, everywhere, through everything, how nature operates, how we operate, but like you said, we're way more up in our heads because obviously if you're driving a car, you got it no distance and you're like doping into the other car, right? So it's a very interesting
Experience and why when I teach I try not to go very heavy into like all this science Because you could know all the science But could Einstein do what I do when I'm working on these sources? No, could he change that horse based on that equation? No, he could say the equations, correct? But how do you actually take that quantum science and break it down? because the reality is
Every single day, every single thing we are doing is operating in the unified energy field. We just got disconnected from it. So when I do this work, when I show it, or when I teach it to students, I'm just teaching them how to remember all of this really, really, really complicated stuff. That like, like I said, if I looked at the equation, I wouldn't have a clue what the equation meant, but I would say, but you know what? Do you want to see that in action?
that I know how to do. And so it's, you know, it's trying to balance the, I guess what I would call the spirit of it. Like what spirit understands, what our souls understand, what our fascia, what our cheat understands about it, what the horses understand about it and bring it into a really simple form that whether you know all that complicated stuff or not, there's a lot of people that know that complicated stuff. Can't work with fascia tissue.
Can't help a horse in an hour or 30 minutes Totally shift itself. So it's finding that beautiful place of like, okay. Yeah, I get it This is really out there and people are gonna be like, you know, I can work on my voice all the distance like I have students that come in and they're like I don't think I'll ever be able to work off off body I teach them to work on body on their cats and their dogs and then we go to the horses and we work off body
And they're blown away. They're like, I can't believe how much more I can feel. How much more I can help my animals. And I'm watching my students and my mind is blown. like, I don't even know if I could teach this stuff. And I'm watching them do things and I'm like, this is amazing. And while they're doing it, like I can also have my hands kind of like over their hands energetically. So I'm checking to see their accuracy. Blown away. But most blown away by the horses.
Speaker 3 (29:07)
Yeah. think this, the understandings are becoming, more accepted. And I was recently at a Dr. Joe Dispensa retreat who, you know, he, he talks a lot about the unified field and, you know, you look at, at religions and in history, we've, we've always known prayer to work. There's a reason why.
Speaker 1 (29:31)
So.
Speaker 3 (29:33)
prayer has been deemed powerful and it's the same sort of thing. We are tapping into this energy and we're taking our energy and we're putting it out there. And through his work, they are using science to validate that's what's happening through his work and through a meditation retreat, but it's pretty intense. And there's scientists there collecting stool samples, blood samples. Tears. What was that? Tears. Tears.
really diving into how, and they're showing after a week of being at this retreat, you look like a completely different person by the blood. Like you would not be able to, same person, same thing by the stool. The microbiome, it shouldn't be able to change like it does. It changes drastically in a short amount of time. And he's got, he talks a lot about, you know, it's not enough to know. We have to know.
Speaker 1 (30:16)
Good.
Speaker 3 (30:27)
And he's teaching the concepts and the techniques that, you know, that he's teaching, which is going to be similar to what you're doing. And he's got a lot of remote coherence healing groups that are working with autistic children. And, and you did the same thing. And it's so interesting because you had, he showed at the end one of one of the days where there were videos of these families and they're just, they're
Speaker 1 (30:28)
Ding.
Speaker 3 (30:54)
crying or they're just overjoyed, but they have their child back, a child that would not interact. was throwing feces at the wall and not able to relate to other people is now this loving member of their family interacting, starting to speak that can't speak. So, you know, what's
Speaker 2 (31:14)
well.
Speaker 3 (31:14)
becomes less and less woo-woo as we all connect and remember what we really are.
Speaker 1 (31:20)
Because we're not even the science that we're doing now. The science has always been the same We just starting about 120 years ago got cut off as a Rockefeller medicine like this is how we're gonna do the science But the what we're remembering has always been in the field We're not science isn't discovering anything They're remembering What has always been and so
I do this work with the horses. not, didn't discover anything. I'm remembering everything that they have known for thousands and thousands of years. And I studied a little bit. I've Native American societies and culture and understandings and folklore. And it is said that in the beginning creator did not speak directly with humans. The creator spoke with the animals. And it was the
Animals that taught the human so the animals the horses are already in their enlightened state The only thing that messes with that is us Because we're having to remember What that enlightened state is right because through our education system we got indoctrinated to the brain So we're like, okay, gotta do this this it's like all in a minute. You like you are dealing with a conscious living being
That does not need you for its survival as the wild animals have proven right? You've taken them out of the wild you domesticate them put them in things that are completely not natural and Then we think we know better about them than they know about their own bodies It is it is fascinating to me because I'm not judging any of it, you know, like I don't ride anymore I used to ride I don't really ride anymore because I got so fascinated
And so like passionate about, okay, why are these horses having problems? How come, how come the problems are developing in the first place? Right? Like we're starting there. And then how come certain things can help them and certain things can't. And then how come we don't remember that horses are totally telepathic and we talk with them all the time. So when someone says, on, I wish I knew what was wrong with you. I'm like.
Let's ask your horse, right? Like, because they know. But also think about in our modern day world, why it was advantageous to cut us off from. Because what happens if you have a client's horse training the horse, they want the horse back in 90 days and the horse is like, I don't really want to do this. Like this isn't my modality or this isn't my area of performance. I would rather do that. Right. Or like, Hey, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (33:54)
I'm a
Speaker 1 (34:03)
feeling great today. don't want to do this, but you got it. You got a client that paid you, but it's like, I kind of have to get. So in a lot of ways, the stuff that I'm bringing forth about the energy medicine and what they understand about the quantum plus the animal communication piece. It's like guys, think you all kind of have to really get back to true basics, like true basics. Like first and foremost, not what can we do with forks?
But first and foremost actually is... course, not me. Like, don't- I don't- doesn't matter what I can do or what gifts they showed me I have or what skills I have. It doesn't matter. Because it's not about me. It's- it's about how, my god, how can I be the best advocate for you? You know, how can I give voice to what you guys know, want us to remember? About-
all of you so can we can we work with horses can we ride horses can we do performance sure but if we're going to get on somebody else's back then i think we got to go back to the foundation of is this okay with you this is your body not mine and that's like one question right like is this okay like do you like and do you like this do you enjoy this
Also to like before anybody even gets on a horse to be able to check your horse's body really quick if there is unrecognized pain Because you both know as train. I'm not a trainer you both know as trainers and riders and and you know the work that you do with horses You know that most of when a horse it's a behavior problem It's usually not a behavior problem. It's usually an unrecognized body pain
And I told you, I worked, I watched these mustangs. I watched every single one of them move. Not one of them would you have said, there's something not right. There's lameness. Everybody was tracking fine. They looked beautiful. They carried themselves beautiful. And yet how do you have teen different subluxations here? And my God, if somebody got on you, the ramifications of
how you're going to have to change your body or why you might have a behavior issue, you know, or why you might have an attitude. And everybody's looking at it from the training perspective, right? Like, okay, well, we've got to get them plumber. We've got to get this. I did a series, a TV series called the Animal Healer. And in one of the episodes, we worked with this horse Inferno who was a formerly wild Mustang and I never met him. He was like, I don't know, 150 miles away.
But what happened working with this horse, cause he was like striking at the trainer and you know, there were definitely concerns about safety. And as I started working on this horse's face, you could literally see on the video in real time, you could see this horse's face literally changing. Like whatever happened to him, whether it was from his gather or you know, him being out in the wild. He had a lot of twerked fashion in the face.
And even a lot of body workers, a of body workers don't work with face. And this is like where you breathe, you know, this is where like your mouthiness can come from, right? Like having a bit in your mouth, this is where your teeth could be off. This is where your TMJs could be off. This is even where your eyesight, not the eyeball itself, but how you see the world could be off. Because you could have had compressions because as a two month old, a two year old, you smacked your head on something.
no one realized the fascia tissue was complete. So while we're sitting there trying to train and make it okay, it's almost like, maybe we need to go back to the beginning a little bit, you know, or at least come full circle. So we've gone so far out, but so much of what the horses were sharing with me as we were doing this work, they were like, do you see that I don't have this problem that the human thinks I have? But at times it makes me
pride because I watch what horses have to go through from their perspective, right? Of being deemed this or being deemed that or being bought, being like, like all of these things. I'm like, I think we have to go back to the beginning. We have horses as a collective, but like, who is that individual? You know, like what is their essence? Cause if we're going to get on them, we're going to ask them to do things that
The explorations and the research that I've done with them over these past like 28 years between body work and body alignment, but also understanding through the communication process, they are what they feel, what they know. It's different with every animal, just right? Like it's like totally like you follow, you would say something different than Jack, you say something different about. But to just come back to that simple space.
which allows us to reconnect in the unified field, right? Whether you understand the science or you don't, whether you can use all the flashy convention, which like, right, the microbiome and this blood thing and that blood thing. That's awesome. And I'm so thrilled he's doing that. It's, I think it's wonderful. And I'd love to meet him at some point and share with him, like the studies that I've been doing with the animals, but in a non harmful way, like in a beneficial way.
And whether we have those results or not, like we can just look at the animal and see, that is not the same animal that we just started with five minutes ago. Is it like whatever it needed to shed, whatever it needed to let go of, know, it's just how that's a beautiful thing too about the quantum and about the unified field. Things can happen in a stem. And because the horses and the animals don't hold on to the story.
The same way that we humans do, I have been blown away by things that I've done with animals and I'm like, I don't understand how that just healed in four hours. I had an experience with a dolphin in Costa Rica. A common dolphin had beached itself and land at the only hotel on the Osa peninsula that happens to be a saltwater swimming pool. So we picked it up and we...
Waiting for veterinarians for like two days to come so we were taking shifts like holding this wild dolphin and at the beginning I saw this dolphin hit its rostrum because the pool was made of concrete and I saw the cuts and what I also saw and it was like in 20 minutes those cuts had like almost healed over and I was like I need to find out from you guys I thought what does this happen like how like how does this work
And that's kind of, going back about 30 years, but that's when I started to become fascinated with this stuff. And then when I started working with the horses, which I didn't think I was going to do a project with horses, I thought I would work with dogs first, because I had a lot more experience there. When the horses showed me things and even like a cut, right? And I just like work on the cut. I would just reconnect energetically through the quantum, reconnect the tissue. And I was like,
That thing should have been stitched up. We didn't stitch it up and in four hours we got no bleeding and it like healed in like three days as opposed to like 10 or 12 with stitches and antibiotics. And I'm not saying don't use those things. I'm just saying it's fascinating to speak to your point about the quantum. Like it can work faster than the speed of light. Sometimes I will be working on a horse and if I'm on T7
something already shifted in t8 before I get there. They are so hooked up and it's not just the fascia tissue. I the fascia tissue is connected to the unified field and so any shifts or any intention bring to it can shift things so fast and when we work in conjunction with the horse asking them like my hands are asking the body so what's up?
Tell me what's going on here. Tell me what's going on in this point. I just am floored by the things that we have been taught. No, that needs training. No, needs this behavior issues. It's like, no, you need to correct it this way. It's like, but what if the body alignment and the unrecognized pain or compressed fascia tissue, what if that's true that they know?
Speaker 2 (42:11)
the
Speaker 1 (42:13)
And then a lot of this stuff we're doing, like, yeah, you can get a horse to stop doing something in their calmer, but what if their tissue's still stuck? That for them, because it's their body.
Speaker 3 (42:22)
Right. And I hate to go backwards here with this, but I think half of our audience would understand the unified field. I think half would not understand. Would you be able to give sort of a brief description of, it's not a concept, but I mean of this concept of the unified field and how it works? How do we tap into it?
Speaker 1 (42:42)
Simplest way breathing how we breathe the fact that we breathe connects us with everything that is a lot of times as humans like Hey, we're born kind of traumatic right we can pull their breath we can be is coming into the world Then we start to crawl we can crawl we can pull something off the table that might bang on the floor and startles our breath right then we start to walk
Then we start to like do sports and play things and now we want to run and now we want to jump. So we can have trauma just like the horses have. And what trauma basically does to the body in its simplest form that everybody can understand whether you understand the quantum field or not. go, now we're going to start breathing again, but oftentimes the tissue around the diaphragm muscle stays lifted. We start breathing into our chest and we start
sympathetic, meaning we've got two nervous systems, they're not really separate, but we can separate them out just for learning and understanding purposes. You're in your sympathetic, you're kind of always going to be a little bit on guard. You're going to always be waiting for like, where's the tiger? Where's the tiger? Where's the tiger? Right? Kind of why you don't want to get on a horse that's in sympathetic breath. Cause if they're saying, where's the tiger? You could have 1200 pounds of moving thing around underneath you. That's like, yeah, I'm not listening to you.
I'm going to see where the tiger is. So what happens is when we start breathing more into our test, start to get more nervous. We start to get more anxious. We start to get much more in our head. We literally start to pull out of our body because the body is the place that feels. Okay. The brain doesn't feel it thinks and it registers chemistry. Body is what actually feels. But it's too much when you're a little.
you actually start to go up into your head. And so when you go up into your head, we go up there and I do believe that the creator designed it this way so we can feel safe, right? Like, all right, if I have to feel too much, I feel like I am either gonna die or my system's gonna explode and I just can't. So we go up here to get safe, to be like, okay, let me think this through, see how I can move myself through this.
But the thing is we always need to get back into the body because when we go into the head, yes, the head is connected with the unified field, but the head is connected with the unified field as the processor to be able to understand all of these smaller interactions happening, right? Because if we understood everything at once, I don't know our brain can handle it. Our brain is definitely a supercomputer, but it's not
made to understand everything that's happening. I believe that we were actually made to experience it all. If you've ever had a moment where you've had this experience that was just so, so present, so fully in your body, so connected with everything that is so connected with like literally it brought tears to your eyes because it was so beautiful.
what you were feeling and experiencing like you couldn't even constantly in your brain figure out everything that was happening. But what was happening was so huge and so beautiful. That's the simplest way and it's connected to the breathing. So if we get stuck up in our chest, I bring people back down into belly breathing. And once we get back into belly breathing, we feel safe in our bodies. And this is the same with the horses as it is with us, right?
So oftentimes when I have a fearful horse, I'm not going to try to train that horse out of fear. I'm going to say, Oh, on, check what's going on in your body. Let's see if we release this and all of sudden now we get a big breath back. Now we know that we've actually dealt with what the root of that fear was. We're not just dealing with switching, getting the horse to switch its brain. It's in that position for a reason. Yeah, we can get it to be calmer.
But I'll guarantee you, if either one of you are training of wars, that's got a high anxiousness level or like is fearful, I will guarantee you that you're going to show it something. It's either going to take a breath and feel safe, or it's going to start feeling safer. And then it takes a breath. That's when the brain changes. No changes happen in the brain without a breath. So.
for people that would say, don't really understand what this unified field is and I don't get it at the simplest level. It's how our breath is moving through our body that is connected because in the 3D we can say inside the body and outside the body, right? In the 5D, there is no inside and outside. Everything is flowing. Everything is moving. That's how these animals, not just they hear something in the field of their own.
They literally feel it on those energy waves. So when we're breathing into our belly and we're relaxed, we're out of our head thinking, we're actually feeling. That is the simplest way that I can describe how to help somebody understand it feels. Because I'm pretty sure even if you don't understand it as a science concept, I still don't understand it. Right? Like the scientific equation.
When I relaxed and I had this experience with my horses, my two Mustangs on Saturday, I just sat on a mountain block and I just breathed. And I had a little dirt around my mare, because I decided with her, I'm not going to do anything to her. Ask her for certain things. She's a mama. She's got two kids that I also have. I have to be so in sync with her that this is her choice. Not my... Can I ask?
It always has to be her choice. Because it's just who she is and it's what she's about. And when I really dropped in and I just let go of any thinking and I let go of any kind of strategizing of like how we're gonna do this or whatever, started to happen for the next hour and a half with her. And when I say it was so exquisite and it looked like we were doing nothing. Literally, it just looked like we were doing nothing.
But the shift in behavior, the shift in softness, the shift in essence that we were connected like, I'm not trying to think about how I need to do with you guys. I need to show you a picture. I need to ask you if this is okay. Let's just see if we can do this from a really calm space, me and you guys. And see if you will be willing to step forward, not I have to ask you to step forward. Would you, if I just say step up, could you? And it's so simple.
Right? Like it's so simple describing this, but this was us being in the unified field for like an hour and a half together. No science, no steps. And I have a lot of friends and I have a lot of colleagues that are probably some of the best horse trainers, including you guys like on the planet. But I decided I was like, I don't want to do it that way. I wanted to see what happens in this field together. I want you guys to teach me. How does this really work for you?
Like how can I flow with you as much as you flow with me? And that's what it feels like. It's moments that people have had. Really, really simple moments where it was like so beautiful, so ease-filled, so much grace that they almost go after, that really happen? Is that like really, that's really what experiencing the unified field is like. It's not a thought, it's an actual like,
almost take your breath away brings tears to your eyes how exquisite being in this field this unified field with these beings are conscious and sentient understand energy, climate and energy you know medicine and connection I would have to distill it down to that kind of simplicity because I can't tell you other than showing you how to breathe
Right? Like, I can't give you like a scientific formula, like this is how you experience, but I could give you the science of, if I show you how to balance your breath, you can drop into that. More and more of those moments will keep opening up. But even if we look at it from the science, you can't experience science. You can prove the science, right? Well, like what Joe was doing, like he's got lots of ways and different tools and techniques to prove the science.
But what creator has really shared with me is we are the quantum science. So yes, we can validate it. But it's the purpose, I think, that the creator really shared with all of us is to have an actual experience and trust the energy that's flowing through that experience and just trust what comes next. Don't think about it, just trust.
Like all of a sudden, if you were sitting and it's like, okay, it's time for me to get like, trust the energy flow, because that's how the live. Right? They're trusting the flow of their energy. And then we could ask them for different things and they might be like, isn't exactly what I want to do at this moment, or this isn't feeling like flow. So I really do believe that together, remembering this unified field. And Jack for people that don't.
Like you said, you know, like, I don't understand. It's not something you can really, you can understand it if somebody shows it to you you're like, yeah, okay. I get it. Well, if I'm one, I've experienced, you don't get it till you're like, my God, there's no words I can put to how exquisite that experiences. That's what experiencing the Unified Field is because it's not an intellectual understanding.
The intellect can't feel, it can't comprehend it. But when you feel it, when you have those moments, like when you've been writing and you're just like, this is like, this is heaven. That's really the best way I could describe what the unified field is like to somebody that might not even understand unified field because everybody's had those experiences and those are the quantum science experiences of what they can explain.
It's because you understand the explanation doesn't mean you actually feel it. It's when you let go of the mental brain and say, okay, I'm going to trust here at surrender to feel exactly this. That's the magic.
Speaker 3 (52:59)
Yeah. And that's, know, you'll hear people that do sports talk about a flow state. You know, you'll, you'll, there's, forget what famous basketball player he said, you know, I don't play basketball, basketball plays me. So he's, he's talking about that same sort of thing. It's coming, it's coming through you.
Speaker 1 (53:16)
Exactly. And it's, that interesting thing too, right? Like, yes, in the 3D, it's coming through you. When you start entering the unified field, you're one with it. There is no separation. There is no inside of you and outside of you. There is no horse and not horse. That's why it feels like such magic. Cause it's you're experiencing what always is, but we've not been taught.
to have experience.
Speaker 3 (53:44)
Yeah, it's a pure consciousness. it's like, in horsemanship, we're always saying feel. know, feel's a small word, but it has a big meaning. But that's the ultimate state of feeling everything.
Speaker 1 (53:55)
That's the ultimate flow state, right? Yeah, it's probably Michael Jordan and Michael Jordan like if you watched him that guy was like I mean he was very strategic and he was a brilliant basketball player but it's more because he put his mind in neutral and he's like, okay I just see the energy and the energies that's gonna tell me where to go. I'm not even gonna think about it I'm just being one with it and if that experience of being but the oneness of what
that field actually is, that's the thing that constantly for me brings tears of joy to my eyes because you get it without it even being like a conscious thought. You're like, my God, this is what sacred space is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:39)
Yeah, and it's not, it's and it's the, it's now it's what you're, it's the, the now it's not. And that's so hard for people, so hard for people. And what do they say? have 70,000 thoughts a day in our head, you know, random.
Speaker 1 (54:52)
teach people breathing because when you can focus on your breath and you can feel it versus think it and you can practice that little by little like I started doing that when I was dog training and I was like all right and learned from a wolf dog like this is how you teach people the energy of how to be in that oneness then just just show them the mechanics and let them keep practicing it and before long
They were so feeling what the experience was that they were actually doing it and being it. But if I put it down on paper, it was like, okay, you're step one, you're step two, you're step three, you're step four, you're thinking. And that's taking you out of the feeling. So I'm not bashing the mental brain at all. think it's fabulous, but it kind of is the back. It should be in the back seat.
Consciousness and our energy should be driving. You know, the backseat driver can make some comment but if it's driving and it's It is kind of amazing sometimes like like it's amazing that we're like as safe as we are cars, right? But imagine if we're driving there'll be times when I'm driving I had a laugh I did a podcast with Warwick Schiller And I did not think the podcast was gonna go the way that it went the directions that it went and all that stuff
And I'm driving from Colorado to Montana and I'm just listening to the thing. And something told me like, you might want to get off here at this exit. And I just got so, I was like, this is me speaking. I know exactly what I said, but I'm driving and I got so into the energy of the conversation. I was supposed to get off at like exit one. I don't know, like one 20.
And I don't know what happened, but like at exit 31, my body was like, you know, you might want to rethink this because you were supposed to get off there. And it was just like, that's what happened when you start mood. And I was like, Oh my God, if I could do, if I could speak and this is what happened to people. I was like, I better put a warning label on this. Like do not listen to when operating heavy equipment. You know what I mean? Because I was like,
So even speaking, breathing, like when it's done, when I work with horses, there is people like, they'll ask me a question and I can answer it, but it's not coming from my mental brain. It's coming through the consciousness of like, well, this is what's happening in the total present moment. You know, and sometimes I'll hit a spot on a horse and they're like, you know, they'll show me a picture of what happened to them.
And that's when I learned from the horses. was like, my God, even the emotional stuff. was like, it's not really separate. They don't have the same prefrontal cortex as we do. So they don't ruminate as much, they'll hold stuff in their bodies, but they remember exactly what happened to them at that moment because they can show me the picture and say, that's where I got kicked or that's where, you know, I got into an accident or that's where I banged into this or, it's
Fascinating because if we sit here and we love these animals so much right we adore them. We want to do the best for them. think part of the best for them is going back to the basics of understanding the truth about telepathic communication as an original science not woo woo, but how the Creator created us all then being able to understand their bodies. So, you know if I say to somebody so you know, did you your horse's body and they're like
Well, the chiropractor wasn't out. I'm like, but you're riding this being you're with this beat. So you didn't check your like, I don't know how and it's it's not a judgment or criticism. It just blows my mind because I'm like, look, I've fought. I've come off my horse. I know the damage that can be done to bones and bodies. And we're getting on these beings that have so much consciousness and have so much awareness. We don't even know these first two steps.
Speaker 3 (58:41)
I know, and I deal with this all the time. People put it in somebody else's hands. And so I say, you can learn to fit a saddle because the horse will tell you not only by looking at the saddle and the horse's back and movement, but the horse will tell you with its eyes, its ears, and its whole, the whole horse will tell you if the saddle's not fitting. And same with if your horse is sore, but they put that in the vet category. And so they've always got these categories so that the responsibility is not on themself.
But they say, oh, my vet says the horse is good. And I say, well, when did the vet come out? A month ago. Right. Well, it's a month later. There could be something else wrong with your horse. You could have an abscess. And so you need to know and feel your horse. That's you. And then use the vet or the saddle fitter as maybe a backup to verify what you know. And if you want to be good with horses, you have to learn the whole horse mind, body, spirit.
Speaker 1 (59:35)
Yes. And the really, really cool part of that too, is you cannot learn the horse whole body, mind, spirit, unless you actually learn yourself too. Yeah. So it's such a beautiful thing. know there's all kinds of like therapeutic riding. There's all kinds of that kind of system and facilitated learning. And for me, like when I watched this with, you know, I get it that some horses want to do some of this work, but it's like,
It's not about them doing the work. It's, it's, they show up. HeartMath has shown, right, that they have a heart field five times larger. Not for nothing, but those horses are five times larger than the human. So is their heart. So that's one thing. And I had called before I did my PhD research study, I had called and had a conversation with Bullend at HeartMath and I said, okay.
You're dealing with the heart field, which goes out five times larger. Forget that. I said, I'm working on a horse two thousand miles away. Now I'm not thinking, not trying to put anything into the field. My only intention is, Hey, we're just going to touch these points. I'm going to release what I can for you to help support you through the rest. I said, but I'm two thousand miles away. Does the heart field go out?
2000 miles are we like where are we I said is it the quantum field? He said don't get yourself in trouble Talking about quantum physics. He said just keep it as the energy field and then I started you know falling back to my Qi Gong and my Chinese medicine and the unified fields and I was like so that's why some of the physicists that I talked to said We understand what you're doing. We can see it. We get it. We don't
have the tools to what you're doing so we can't technically verify that quantum science. And one day after I had completed my PhD, I was kind of sitting and staring at space as I sometimes do because my brain sometimes goes into thinking a lot and then they give it a rest and the horses, I heard them and they said, you understand you just proved the quantum skills. And they said, not just the quantum field, you understand you just
the unified field theory. was like, I felt like a dog, you know, when you ask the dog if they want to go outside, I was like, I don't, I mean, okay, me who never understood science, who's just following, who studies Qigong and goes, my God, we are the science. This is quantum science. This is the QI field. This is the unified field. Animals all know this.
Now I'm supposed to get people totally like this science versus the Rockefeller medicine science that we're used to like double-blind placebo study I'm thinking I Just do a double-blind placebo study. The horse doesn't know me. They have no idea what I'm gonna do They can't even see me. They've never smelt me and never touch them The human doesn't know what I'm doing and I'm not thinking what I'm doing. I'm just touching links in the fossil tissue
Speaker 2 (1:02:20)
Did it?
Speaker 1 (1:02:37)
I honestly was like, this is the greatest double blind placebo study. If it wasn't real, I how could the animals even be feeling it? So it just, it's been a fascinating journey. There's been a really, really fascinating journey. And you know, like, like I said before, I don't know if you can go in, I know what's going to happen. I can fix your horse. All I know is I know how to touch points.
I know how those points can help release fascia tissue even over long distances. And I personally have been blown away by seeing what can change if you shift the fascia tissue and even if you don't know all of the science and then being able to show it, teach it to people so they can live like you said, like it's got to be put back in the field. So you can't leave this to somebody else. Now you don't have to go to medical school because we're not diagnosing any.
We're just simply assessing and if we feel tightness, we're able to release and help assist the horse. So it is energy medicine, but we're not competing with Western science medicine. We're not diagnosing. We're just like, Hey, I wonder why that saddle didn't fit. Your T6 was so compressed, regardless of what we would do to fix that saddle, we had to actually uncompressed your T6 with the fascia release.
Now all of a sudden we can get a proper read. How does that saddle fit for you? Cause they think we've got it backwards, right? We're adjusting the saddle. We're fixing this out of it. I'm like, about we start with the horse? Cause it's their body. Let's be able to see what's going on in that body for us, but especially for them. If we're asking for the honor and the privilege to get on their back as opposed to the expectations.
patient that we own them and it's now we can do whatever we want with their bodies. I'm like kind of Huh, that doesn't sit right in terms of the consciousness You know if we start with the body first and like you said if we make that from back into our understanding of horses or any animals even dogs, you know Why are you aggressive? I checked bodies. No wonder why you were aggressive like your your necks all crazed your hips are off
your, your thoracic vertebrae, of course you're going to be aggressive. β we release that. Okay. Feel better. So I look at it like, yes, I know how far we're going trajectory, you know, and technology and all of that. And I'm just saying, according to the horse's truth, think we need to just get back to some basics. So we're sort of all on the same page and
If you're gonna get on somebody else's bike, I mean like if I got on your back Paula and I was like, and I'm gonna put this thing in your mouth now like gonna be like excuse me? No, so the fact that these beings are so big and then I don't know who decided to make mini horses and ponies because it's the same energy as a big horse in a more trepidate space Maybe that's why little kids are better off riding ponies. You know, they're they're But I'm like
I get how far we've gone, but I feel like we just gotta get back to the simplicity. just in the work that I've done in my research with them, I mean, learning telepathic communication isn't hard. It's actually really easy. And it's actually better for all of us anyway. When you're telepathic, you can't hide stuff. Like if everybody knows everybody's thoughts, it's like...
What kind of society could we create that way? And then, you know, if we understand the simple things that we can do in five minutes, you could check your horse's body. They're going to be happier and healthier and safer. So will the people. And when I was younger, I was kind of told to control the horse. As I started to get older, was like, you know, the physics of this doesn't work out really well for us. Like you can pull on a bit, but I'm like, you don't know what this... You could pull on your...
Speaker 3 (1:06:15)
Nope.
He's
under you.
Speaker 1 (1:06:26)
Metal paint isn't gonna, you know, but what if we didn't even have to use some of these things? You know, people are like, I could never do that. And I'm like, most of my students said they can never even work off body and things that I see them do. I had an accident right before Thanksgiving. My two younger horses were playing. I didn't realize it, but one of them smashed me in the nose and I broke my nose and it was bad. I mean, it was split open. It was bad. It should have taken
to heal, if not months. I called one of my students who did facial work on humans, but then I taught her how to do the animals and how to do that at a distance. I called her right away and I was like, this is what happened. need your help. She started pulling the trauma out of my nose, went to the hospital, got it stitched. I took a picture every day. And by the 13th day, and I mean I had
black eyes, fat l- like it was brutal, it was like here at least at eight weeks to like three months. I took a picture on the 13th day with the biggest smile on my face. Black eyes were gone. I didn't even know what my nose would look like. I was like, I don't know if it's gonna even pretty much like spread across my face. And I just went, well, maybe I just got the realization of how well fashion works.
I just had to prove it to myself. It's astounding how fast things can change with addressing the issue. It is so often body tissue. And it's safe. It's effective, easy. And I kid you not, I tell my students when they start working with me, like, take a picture of yourself today. Cause you are not going to be the same person in seven weeks. They don't even look like the same people.
And that's just from like level one classes and it's, it's fascinating because it's like, wow, you horses have taught us than I ever realized. And I love riding, but for me at this point, and I have broken our bones and killed them pretty quickly through Chee-Gall, but it was like this point I'm just so much, I'm so fascinated to keep learning like who they are, but they know.
what they're here teaching us that I, you know, like I walked away from my session with my two on Saturday and I was like, that was better than any ride ever. Like it was just, you know, except when I rode my paint horse in like chest deep snow. was like, okay, this is, this is living in heaven on mother. So I've got a holistic experience ever riding, but I was like, this is, this is okay. Like even though I didn't ride.
I was like, just feels like heaven or cause of the connection. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (1:09:07)
So I'd love for you to share what you're going to be presenting in the fair because you are going to be sharing one of your remote.
feelings or I don't know what you're calling them, but your remote work. And then, yeah, if you want to talk a little bit about your other presentations.
Speaker 1 (1:09:20)
And so, β the one of the presentations is a session that I did with Warwick Schiller's force after we on the podcast, his cat came into the room into his podcasting room, which cat he's least my cat never comes in here. Cat comes into podcast room and literally is like, is like rubbing herself.
up against the microphone and I'm like I don't know what it is for it like I don't have cats but cats like love me for something they feel the energy and they're like what the heck so the cat's rubbing against the microphone and I'm like okay well I wasn't planning on this but your cat is a little bit out of whack can I do you know can I touch some points start touching the points the cat is just sitting there like mezzanine turns its back so she's like look make sure you hit like these places you know so I'm working on her and she releases and then she leaves
And after work and I got off the podcast, they said, Hey, listen, you know, if you ever have a horse that you want me to work on, or if there's something you can't figure out. So this would be really cool. Cause I'd love to show it to you in real time. we set up a session later. did an in-sync body assessment of Asher Lee on his horse, Chance. And I had never met Chance, didn't know anything about him. I knew he was four years old. That was it. Didn't know any issues he was having. And we worked through his body and we go through the session.
And Chance, like when I got to his shoulders, Warwick and I thought he was like setting himself up to pee, but he wasn't. He just, put his front legs together and then he like stretched out his back and he didn't like, I just touch points. I don't know what's gonna happen. So I found out afterwards that Chance had started to develop an issue in his shoulder. I knew nothing about it. Warwick said only three people on this planet knew that there was anything going on. And I was thinking I was going to have to get somebody to come in and work on this.
He rode chance, he gave him like a couple days off. The next time he rode chance, he said, Alicia, was gone. Completely gone. Like the cinchiness in his belly, shoulder issue. He said, I rode him. He said it was the best he ever rode. So that's one of the presentations, like showing exactly how this works at a distance. So especially for the people that are like, I don't know about this long distance stuff and I don't know about this unified field.
You can watch it. You can watch it in real time. It wasn't edited. The time at the end, the beginning and the end was clipped off. There was no editing in it. So you can watch the session and just see for yourself. That's why I think the horse is said for my PhD. They were like video, all this. I was like, okay. I was like, I, I'm not going to show you a too flat piece of paper that's a Beezer statistics. I'm going to stay here watching you see for yourself. So that is one of the presentations. And that was just a lot of fun. It was a lot of.
And then the second presentation is called the horse's truth. I was not planning on doing things this way, but the horses just said, Nope, you're going to break this down into five different segments of what our reality is of our natural science. Like, so I talk about animal communication. I talk about breathing. So for anybody that doesn't fully believe in the unified field, watch the presentation because presentation one starts with.
breath work and that's really how you could start to feel the unified field. Then we talk about animal communication. We talk about body work. We talk about our energy bubble and why that is so important to an animal is raised by a mom that has an energy bubble and all of our animals have energy bubbles. And as you mentioned before, Jack, like we're in our head, our energy bubble like really, really shrinks. And so.
If we're coming to a horse who's got a much bigger bubble than us and we're shrunk and we're like, well, you should do this. That horse, because they feel and read energy, they're going to have maybe a, I don't know if I really want to do this because I'm the one that needs to protect us. So if you're asking me to do something and your bubble is small. So they show us how to increase.
our bubble and why it is so important. And then the last, um, segment of it is about communion, how we share that space together. I see whether we're on the ground together, whether we're ground floor, whether we're on their back, but really thinking about things in a little bit different of a way about them as conscious sentient beings and how we can really learn to connect the mind, body, and spirit of us with their mind, body, and spirit.
Speaker 3 (1:13:45)
Great.
Speaker 1 (1:13:46)
Like I said, I wasn't planning on I felt bad, I was like, god, Paula. I was like, I don't know how this is gonna go, I hope I'm not like screwing up how, you know, it sits on a page. I was just like, but this is what they said to do. No,
Speaker 3 (1:13:58)
just fine and β where can where can people find you?
Speaker 1 (1:14:01)
People can find me at alishamayne.com and it's A-L-L-E-C-I-A, Mayne Emmett.
Speaker 3 (1:14:08)
Well, we sure appreciate you being here and we're glad to have you as a part of the fair.
Speaker 1 (1:14:13)
I'm so excited. Like it's just and especially because I'm not a trainer to me. I'm just elite I'm like look at the People that I am in and being able to present this information, you know that it's It's not about me. It's the horses. Yeah, they know so I'm so honored
Speaker 3 (1:14:31)
Yeah. And you have the right audience because I would say all of our, both our presenters and those that are going to be attending the fair, everybody wants to put the horse first and they really, they care. The company all around.
Speaker 1 (1:14:43)
And hopefully the girl that thought she was stupid because she didn't understand math and science helps people understand the quantum reality in a really, really simple way. Like that would be a hilarious irony. Well, do you ever have a horse that you're like, something is going on here. You can just hop on zoom in real time.
Speaker 3 (1:15:02)
That's to take you up on that. Yeah. We sure appreciate all your time today. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (1:15:08)
Yours as well. this was so much fun. And I'm just, so excited and I can't wait to share. Keep sharing. Like everybody, you got horses. You need to come and watch these presentations. Like this is where it's at.
Thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (1:15:22)
You're welcome. Thank you.
