Dr. Andrew McLean

What if understanding how an animal learns could transform not only the way we train, but the relationship we build along the way?

In this conversation, Dr. Andrew McLean shares his journey from a childhood surrounded by animals to becoming a pioneer in equitation science. He explores how scientific principles, positive reinforcement, and pressure release can help us develop more humane, effective approaches to training horses and elephants. From reward-based elephant training in Nepal and Southeast Asia to the concept of self-carriage in horses, Andrew invites us to look beyond traditional methods and consider what animals are learning, how they experience our cues, and where we can give them greater understanding and control. It's a fascinating reminder that when we understand the animal in front of us, we can create opportunities for greater trust, confidence, and welfare.

Chapters & Timestamps

00:00 – Introduction to Dr. Andrew McLean and his work in equitation science
00:20 – Growing up surrounded by animals and horses
00:46 – Developing humane training methods and exploring positive reinforcement
00:54 – Training elephants in Nepal and Southeast Asia using reward-based methods
00:55 – The science of rapid learning and the power of three repetitions
01:19 – The importance of touch and tactile connection in animal welfare
01:40 – Adventures in Kyrgyzstan and mountain riding
02:06 – The future of animal training and the importance of understanding animals
02:32 – Closing thoughts on improving animal welfare through science and empathy